Eternal Debate: Star Wars vs. Star Trek

Star Wars and Star Trek share not only similar names, but arguably similar fandoms. Many times, fans have an appreciation for both–or a professed hatred for one. A key feature of these universes is technology. Whether or not one universe is technologically superior to the other is a subject of great debate…

 

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Technological Superiority: Star Wars vs. Star Trek

The Empire vs. the Federation, the eternal debate. Which civilization is technologically superior?

Star Wars and Star Trek share not only similar names, but arguably similar fandoms. Many times, fans have an appreciation for both – or a professed hatred for one. A key feature of these universes is technology. Whether or not one universe is technologically superior to the other is a subject of great debate.

Personal Weapons

– Both sides come with heavy artillery of the concentrated light variety, but if it comes down to The Force versus the Vulcan neck pinch, is there any contest? Hint: mind control trumps squeezing a neck between your fingers.

WINNER – Star Wars: Lightsabers, Blasters, The Force Signature Weapon: Lightsaber

— Creates a beam of controlled pure plasma that can cut through nearly anything.

— Used by the elite warriors of the Jedi or Sith, they hold a highly prestigious status.

Star Trek: Phasers, Photons/Stun Grenades, Vulcan Neck Pinch. Signature weapon: Phaser particle gun.

— Fires particle beams of nadion particles (some are plasma guns, utilizing forced plasma beams.)

— Able to cut through hulls and shields.

— Adjustable effects allow heat, disintegration, kill, cut, and stun.

Fighters and Vehicles

– The smaller fighters and ground units resources are clearly more developed on the side of The Empire. Ground combat with drones, tanks, and behemoth AT-ATs are common sights in SW gilms whereas person-to-person combat is virtually that exists in ST.

WINNER – Star Wars: Tie Fighters

— Carries dual blaster cannons and has Twin Ion Engines for superior maneuverability.

— Empire also has ground units including AT-AT and AT-ST walkers.

Star Trek: Attack Fighter

— Equipped with photon torpedoes, pulse cannons, ship mounted high-energy disruptors, and particle accelerators.

— There are no notable ground vehicles other than those employed in infantry-based encounters.

Starships

– Comparable strength of engines and weaponry are what warrant these two ships facing off. The advantage is in the hands of Slave-1 with both speed and firepower on its side.

WINNER Star Wars – Slave-1

— Main guns: 64,000GW

— Missiles: 190 megatons

— Sublight accelerator: 2,500

“There’s no star system Slave 1 can’t reach, and there’s no planet I can’t find. There’s nowhere in the galaxy for you to run. Might as well give up now.” – Boba Fett

Star Trek – Enterprise-D

— Main guns: 3.6GW

— Missiles: 64 megatons

— Sublight accelerator: 1,000G

“Let’s make sure that history never forgets the name… Enterprise.” – Captain Picard

Weapons of Mass Destruction

– The Star Wars and Star Trek universes have roughly equal WMD’s at their disposal. The Death Star is a moon sized space station with an unfathomable laser-beam that the Borg are futile to resist, but the Vulcan Red Matter is more covert and packs a wallop.

TIE – Star Wars: The DEATH STAR BEAM is roughly 20,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 megatons (that’s 20 billion trillion.)

— Fun Fact: The “Tsar Bomba” of the USSR, the most powerful bomb ever detonated, was designed to carry an explosive force of 100 megatons.

TIE – Star Trek: BORG TACTICAL CUBE boasts multi-faceted engagement capabilities, beam weapons, tractor beams, and pulse weapons. It functions as a space sation and its HQ is comparable to the Death Star.

– RED MATTER is capable of summoning a black hole under excessive heat or pressure. It was only produced once by the Vulcan scientists. Black holes have unknown destructive properties but can absorb nearby planets and stars.

Affiliation Resources

– Despite there being a mere 27 starships present for The Empire’s most important battle in Return of the Jedi, it is said to possess hundreds of thousands of planetary systems and even creates its own moons. The Federation is blatantly dwarfed.

WINNER Star Wars: Galactic Empire

— 1,000,000 total planetary systems

— 1,500 – 100,000 members

— 10,000 light-year diameter territory

— 2,000 trillion persons population

Star Trek: United Federation of Planets

— 1,000-5,000 total planetary systems

— 150 members

— 8,000 x 6,000 light years

— 2 trillion persons population

It appears that the empire has resources aplenty–The Federation can only pale in comparison. Where do your allegiances lie?

 

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  1. “Despite there being a mere 27 starships present for The Empire’s most important battle in Return of the Jedi, it is said to possess hundreds of thousands of planetary systems and even creates its own moons. The Federation is blatantly dwarfed.”

    Riiiight. (sarcasm) I also doubt the calculations on the Slave 1, and the idea that Tie Fighters are more maneuverable than Federation Ships with their primitive Ion engines.

  2. Jeff Drimsly says:

    If people bothered to do research there wouldn’t be a debate. Star Trek easily wins just by simple facts. First of all the Lasers used in Star Wars (Yes I know they’re plasma) are useless against Starfleet shielding. The Lasers in Star Trek are visible in space so they are plasma as well. Second, the Star Trek universe has Phasers. . Phaser stands for Phased Energy Rectification, but a Phaser beam is not completely energy. Nadion particles are the key component in Phasers. Nadions are special particles that are capable of removing the nucleus from an atom. This already is far more powerful than a Star Wars laser. But the Nadion particles aren’t the only things that make a Phaser so powerful. The fact that a Phaser beam is phased changes a lot. Not only does it have the capability of destroying the structure of an atom, it can phase through shields that have never come into contact with such powerful technology. It was stated in an episode of Star Trek: The Original Series (TOS: The Menagerie) that a single Phaser beam at medium intensity could destroy a large continent.

    Next up are the Photon Torpedoes. These torpedoes are a little different than Phasers, but they are more powerful. The first difference is that they don’t use Nadion Particles. Instead they use an antimatter detonation to inflict large amounts of damage. While they aren’t energy, they’re still able to be phased. According to Star Trek: Voyager (VOY: Scorpion), the maximum yield on a Photon Torpedo is 200 isotons, and also according to Star Trek: Voyager (VOY: The Omega Directive), only 50 isotons would be sufficient to destroy a small planet. It’s no wonder these are used so much.
    Another type of torpedo that debuted in Star Trek: Deep Space Nine (DS9: Defiant) was a Quantum Torpedo. Although not too much is known about these, one can imagine that the yield is much higher than a Photon Torpedo’s yield. Last but certainly not least is the Transphasic Torpedo introduced in Star Trek: Voyager’s finale (VOY: Endgame). This torpedo is probably the most powerful of them all. Again, due to it being only in the last episode, not a lot is known about this torpedo. However, judging by its name and its on-screen abilities, we know that it is capable of ripping through most shields no matter what. It proved extremely successful against one of the most powerful races in Star Trek, the Borg. The Borg assimilates life-forms and technology and can adapt to weapons. Even with these abilities, the Borg were no match for these torpedoes.

    Shielding is a very important part of space exploration, and that is why Star Trek ships have the very best. To keep this article from going to long, I have excluded the math, and Star Trek shields can withstand over 90,000,000,000,000 gigawatts of concentrated energy all at once. We get this number from looking at how many torpedoes the original USS Enterprise could handle, and with it being 90 at maximum yield all at once from Star Trek: The Original Series (TOS: The Changeling), that is one part to finding it out. Then by looking at several sources on how many megawatts it would take to destroy the moon, as it did say small planet, we can then convert it to gigawatts and multiply it by the 90 torpedoes. To put that many gigawatts in perspective, an atom bomb detonates with 0.006666667 gigawatts. Also as stated in Star Trek: The Next Generation (TNG: The Outrageous Okona), Star Wars-esque lasers do absolutely nothing to shields. An visual example of these lasers is from Star Trek: The Next Generation (TNG: Peak Performance), where the visible red laser from the USS Hathaway helplessly scatters onto the Enterprise’s shield.
    Another advantage that Star Trek shields have is the ability of modulating and protection against phased weapons. Modulation/frequency go hand in hand with phased weapons. The closer a weapon’s modulation is to the shields, the less effective the shield is. Since Star Wars shields don’t have any proper type of modulation, they are weak and easily defeated.

    That is why Star Trek would completely win.

  3. The guy that made the comparasion up there is a mere retard. He realy thinks that TIE fighter can catch up to even a Shutle? A shutle type 6 and rest would rape the shity Tie fighter. He can manuver all it wants, but whats the point. Tie fighter speed is max 1400 kph, slowest shutle from ST is going on 4000 kph and firepower is more that OP than those of SW. Tie fighter must come extremely close and manualy target the shutle … highly doubt that he will target it at all since he cant come even close to it. in other hand, shutle has photon torpedo thats traveling close to light speed, and not to forget high acurate phasers. about the starship up there, its capable of speed of 100k kph, and he wants a Tie fighter to beat it well good luck with catching up and avoidint phaser fire when you are going 1.4 k again 100k kph. next down there we have Slave-1 and Galaxy star ship. Fail again, that ships Hyperdrive maybe better but who said anything about runing away from that crap ship. Galaxy class speed on impulse is again over 100k kph just in orbit and outside of it its 300 k kph so fail again foru madmin you are retard. you are not even counting the ship saucer separation and speed. Again you are makeing misstake by speed of ships and asumeing that those ion lasers can actualy do a shit to hull. No they cant, Ion lasers on ST just damage the shields, but not the hull, thats why starfleet abandoned the phasers and torpedo projects ( you are moron and just no research fanboyx of SW). next we have mass destruction weapons. Phased Plasma is not onily crap ther, you have Omega molekule boms, Trnsphasic torpedoes, Bio-Weapon mine, Anti mater mine, Temporal Research Facility, Bio-Frigate Destruction beam, Quantum research facility there is more im lazy to check all. Your trash star is useless for a few reasons. 1st the tractor beams are useless mostly since there is tractor inversion beam, and your won tractor beam can be used for database crash so your trash star central computer would be torched. next to that your trash star would be fucked up if you would use it on borg since you would get cou7nter efect with nanites transport and you would have your crew instantly asimilated. next to that is phased plasma torpedoes. The worst part there is taht they phase trough space and pass shields so you can have prety much defian passing your shield generator, unstealthing, teleporting down phased plasma torpedo and nukeing Trash star in pieces so pls next time more research and dont take trash here. You missed even star fleet battle ships. ST TNG, DS9. ST Voy are in same time line and yet you take only 1 part. dont be full of crap and do more research next time and delete this shit

  4. deaincaelo says:

    Star trek has time travel, Star Wars does not. The empire is screwed.

    That being said, the math for Star Wars firepower is way, way off. It assumes a type III civilization and some dubious calculations about a grey asteroid being made of pure iron. In short: It cannot be a type III civilization as depicted in the movies, as all planets have a sun and stars.
    The firepower can’t be as immense as stated, else the misses fired at the falcon would have reduced Mos Eisley to a crater visible from space. Hitting the city isn’t necessary for some of the power outputs listed.
    Hypermatter, the proposed solution to the huge energy requirements, only makes the energy requirements worse. Hypermatter is a massive tachyon particle. You have to expend fuel to carry it.
    tl:dr Star Wars reportadly expends much more energy than they seem to have on hand.

  5. let us not forget what an a-wing can do…

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